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“Barbarous Nations”

Posted by NoumenalRealm on December 16, 2008

One of Hume’s arguments concerning miracles involves a claim that miracle testimonies come from people who are from ‘barbarous nations’. Is this claim true?

The first caveat to make is to establish some interpretations of the claim:

1. Miracle testimonies come from primitive, non-industrial, people (the stupid people appeal)
2. Miracle testimonies come from non-European nations (the Eurocentric appeal)
3. Miracle testimonies come from poorly educated people (the poorly educated appeal)
4. Miracle testimonies do not come from civilised persons (the converse claim)

I would like to be informed if there are any empirical studies on the social stratification of miracle claims; this could clear up issues of:

1. Whether miracle claims originate from certain religious stratifications (Christian, Muslim etc.)
2. Whether miracle claims originate from non-Europeans
3. The educational status of miracle claimants: possible underlying questions about the social background of such persons

I am willing to believe (on my own anecdotal tesimonies from persons I know) that there are intelligent, European descendent (this includes white Africans; Antipodeans; North Americans etc.), but anecdotal evidence shouldn’t be admissable for this kind of argument in any answer to the question: do people believe in miracles, where there is no question of ‘barbarity’ to raise?

Sinistre*

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David Mitchell on the public discourse of religion

Posted by NoumenalRealm on May 24, 2008

Whatever happened to rigour?

M

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What is the real conflict, here?

Posted by NoumenalRealm on May 14, 2008

Last night, Antisophie gave me a phonecall and told me that a Vatican astronomy expert said that the Church should not rule out the possibility that there could be life on Mars. I’ve often thought about how a Christian would consider the issue of extra-terrestrial life. My prima facie thoughts would be that a Christian has motivations not to accept such a possibility; but what kind of Christian would that be?

Such a Christian would maintain that Jesus is the source of all salvation; that humanity is the pinnacle of creation, and that as createes in Eden; we have taken on damnation by original sin. It would be those things, core to Christian belief, to which we would deny alien life; why?

Because Jesus is the source of all salvation; if (counterfactual) we entertained there was alien life who was conscious and aware and sentient like us; it too would require salvation. Or, would they? Would these aliens require Jesus’ salvation? Or would they go to hell because they never knew Jesus? Or, if we are really pushing it; did God have another son whom which he sacrificed for another terrestrial race? The latter is a very hard and challenging thought that, I suppose, a believer wouldn’t want to accept. I’m not asserting these questions are problems, but they are things a believer would want to answer; for the conceivability and overall cogency of their view.

If there was life outside of Earth; are we then the pinnacle of creation? If there is life outside of earth; are they tainted by original sin?

On the one hand; I don’t really think there should be much of a conflict; but then, Master Destre said to me; “Think harder, Magister”, his eyes, penetrated through me as his pupils sharpened and focused at me with his dry, icy gaze.

Think about the beliefs that we hold; and think about the comfort that we have when we believe them to be true. Of course, there are many beliefs to which we are uncomfortable about, that we hold true. The fact that we have things that we do not like to admit, but are nonetheless true, and we believe so, shows that we do not simply believe in things we want to.

Perhaps it is a sign of rationality or reflexivity if one demonstrates that their beliefs are subject to some experiential or rational tribunal; where the tribunal of truth and validity lies either outside of us (experience), or imbued within the laws outside of us (reasoning). Is it easy to believe that God loves us? No, it is not; to believe that God loves us, is hardly evidenced in the world. Where is God in the natural disasters of the world, our own personal tragedies, and the fundamental injustices that we inflicts upon our siblings. It is not easy to beleive that there will be a happy ending, especially for those who are heavily involved in the relief of the plight of others. What there is, is a hope, a hope that salvation will come; and this is seriously challenged by the presence of bad fortune and evil in the world. It is far from easy for the intelligent person to believe in God; or for the genuinely compassionate to have hope, in the face of utter despair. Yet, some still do…

What about the flexibility of scientific practice? Imagine to find your life’s work, celebrated by generations after you, being destroyed, or modified beyond your recognition, in the name of truth-preservation. What certainty or fortitude is there in physics? The scientific outlook is one based on shaky metaphysical grounds, shaky empirical methodology, and uncertain substantive conclusions. Rightly so, many would affirm. But, here we have a worldview very uncertain, always subject to change, in constant flux. It is this kind of worldview that tensely is distinct in form from that of the religious belief worldview. The world of the religious beliver is one that has a hope for certainty and truth, and underlying resolution; in the light of flux; and science, is the acknowledgment of flux, and perhaps, the search for similar certainty? We then might say, young charge, that this is not a difference in ideology. Cultural mindset perhaps? To challenge the sensibilities of how one live’s their lives and sees the world? We must always doubt; perhaps this is the test for believers; to find tthe most proper channel for their belief in the light of a powerful rational method. Do we oppose it, or try to find resolution? Or, better still, adopt the rational method as standard, and consider our epistemic norms; such as the good deontic conception of principles like “follow the conclusions to wherever they take you”.

Epistemic norms? Something I find quite interesting, myself…

Michael

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Two senses of…

Posted by NoumenalRealm on May 3, 2008

The expression of “I’m sorry” has two distinct meanings:

  1. “I’m sorry” denotes sympathy
  2. “I’m sorry” denotes an apology

The expression of “believing in (something)” has two distinct aspects

  1. To believe in something means to have a commitment to saying that the object in question exists, and that we hold this proposition true in our mental furniture as a belief about the true states of affairs.
  2. To believe in something is to have a commitment to a thing in a way beyond some mere trivial fact about our own propositional set of beliefs, but about who we are as people. This latter sense is harder to express.

I think in the expression of “I’m sorry”, both senses can harmlessly be one and the same. One can express “I’m sorry” as an expression of sympathy, while not being culpable or accepting responsibility to the thing in which she is sorry about. This is a harmless expression.

When someone says, however “I believe in God”; I’m sure that they mean it in both senses of the word; and, it is the latter sense in which we should give a story. What is it about belief in something that is consisted within it, to explain what it means when we say something like “I believe in you”, or “I believe in myself”.

Destre (and Michael)

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My special place (D)

Posted by NoumenalRealm on April 29, 2008

St. Thomas More

Chelsea old church. When Michael comes to visit and we meet up in London; we find this place very special. More is a man dressed in unassuming scholarly robes; yet had the constitution and courage to challenge the King. More is a man whom which we are both named after; and whome which we admire most greatly. A scholar, and a moral-political dissident. He is an Areopagite in our eyes

Destre

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Superficial remarks on arguments for God’s existence

Posted by NoumenalRealm on April 19, 2008

let us now consider the contemporary atheist, and by this, I mean, the serious analytic philosopher, not some pissant musings on the divine is. I find a personal dislike of non philosophers talking about atheism, that is for that reason, that they are not have systematic concerns about the nature of reality. if I am going to raise a point about the nature of knowledge, the nature of time, the status of moral propositions, the status of the abstract entities, or the relation between thought and object, the relation between subject and world, I see no better candidate than those trained in the works of Aristotle, Quine, Kant, Leibniz, Russell, and so on.

I dislike those who purport atheism, but with no agenda, what I mean is that they have no agenda to explain the world. They may have an ad hoc answer to you, that of science. And normally a reply, that I had is this: how can you explain the incommensurability between the social world and the natural world, the status of social propositions, the status of number, the Socratic question, the nature of value, and, what I may push is the conceptual unity between propositions of value and propositions of fact, the system is to city between the whole world as we perceive it, a system that is the key to we must presuppose in order to make the world cognizable. Only a philosopher can answer this way. Call me prejudiced, but I like rigour and systematicity in my understanding of the world. I may agree with you in your end conclusion, but I will not appreciate poor argumentation. just because we agree on the conclusion, doesn’t mean I will accept a bad argument to the former. In philosophy, allies are made not in our conclusions, but in our method.

Now let me say little bit about the analytical style against the case of God. Most of these arguments are conceptual by their nature. We construct the conception of God, through some kind of ostensible definition, and we find a case that we could accept about the world, but goes against our definition. Sometimes enthymemes can be addressed. I do think of this current moment, the philosophy arguments for the existence of God fail, but we accept this conclusion only from a better dialectic. An example, perhaps it should be given: the ontological argument is often assumed to posit that existence is a predicable objects. this is the Humean objection, the Kantian objection is slightly different to this: existence, is not a determining predicate, this is I think weaker claim. We may accept existence is a predicate, but it would be won trivially so, and would not tell us anything determinative about a concept in question. My old tutor told me a good example: I can have a steak that is salty, and it is saltiness that is the characteristic of steak. if I asked you to bring me a cold beer, you shall understand what I am referring to when you understand what beer is and what it is to be cold. if I asked you for an existence beer, you would have no idea what I’m on about!

We could however, say that existence predicates the character of sets, this is a Fregean thought. We might also lead issues of metaphysics into the notion of Meinognian objects. But here we go into very dark issues, to discuss the notion of the ontological argument for the existence of God, is not something to take lightly. to realise the failure of these arguments is to realise the platitudes about the nature of existence, and the nature of abstract object. I think that these arguments for and against God become the ultimate philosophical exercises; they take us through many different lands, they take us beyond the question and into reality itself.

Michael (and Destre)

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Atheism in the unusual suspects

Posted by NoumenalRealm on April 19, 2008

I’ve been thinking about this issue a little while now, is Kant an atheist?  What about Descartes?

I think an interesting case can be made for the atheism of Kant, Mannfried Kuehn  poses a little bit of the case for this: most of the reasons appeal mainly to historical evidence about the character of Kant, I find, on the basis of personal reasons, and the general character of Kant’s metaphysics.  what do I mean by personal reasons? I find the character of Kant in a similar vein to Hume, insofar as Kant is trying to overcome certain dogmatic tendencies. I found it somewhat amusing about the stories of Kant’s dislike of organised religion.  Kant’s work religion within the limits of mere reason is very challenging; if we are to take tacit the Christian point of view, and we read Kant: we find very disturbing conclusion that we are led to. I think a lot more can be said about the possible atheism in Kant, one day perhaps we’ll have a definitive view on this issue. Like his views on teleology, Kant’s view of God is very unsatisfactory.

The case, Descartes is a very odd one, this comes from a very odd and perhaps the only commentator who addresses this issue.  what motivation can we have to say that? we could look at the significance of the imprisonment of Galileo Galilei, a very very powerful event. I find it interesting, that’s Copernicus or Kepler didn’t get any persecution, but Galileo faced challenge of the church. Many people during the 16th century were worried about such persecution. But, when we look at Cartesian Sceticism and the meditations, we find the role of God very important. It almost seems as if by virtue of Modus Tollens, if the individual who can prove God a priori can refute the malin genie of scepticism, then, the individual who cannot find such a proof in God, is haunted by sceptical doubt; perhaps that is why epistemologists seem to be troubled so much, but I am just joking about that.

I’m just emptying my head to have some proper thought about atheism, which will come in my next post.

Michael

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The presence of evil (moral knowledge and moral telos)

Posted by NoumenalRealm on April 7, 2008

The state of affairs

People talk of the one constructive thing that comes from the evils that we commit to as is that we learn not to do them.

Sometimes I imagine, as I would imagine most people might, that the most perfect state of affairs for all people would be if no evil was to occur in the world; perhaps, but I do not make this claim here; that the absence of evil may entail the absence of human suffering; this state of affairs would be a very different place to the world that we live in; suffering is present everywhere. This is merely an intuition that I elicit, an ideal view of a normative state of affairs; a moral commonwealth whereby, assumedly we, as moral agents would satisfy some highest ideal of moral character; virtue, summum bonum; call it what you will.

This, as experience may tell us, is not our state of affairs; the state of affairs is that evil is a presence in the world, and our moral intuitions tell us that we, if we are to be morally significant beings, seek to change this.
Moral knowledge

We make msitakes but we learn from them also. In our own personal biographies, we make mistakes unique to us, our own orientation and psychological dispositions; it may be that the mistake of the glutton is to eat too much; the mistake of the gullible is to be transparent about their honesty and confidence in others that they may be truthful, let us call these subjective lessons of morality.

We also, have lessons to learn that go beyond our own eccentricities and niches; what we, as a member of a certain group (say, men), or, we as a member of a cultural and ideological community (say, scientists, or marxists), have to learn. We may even go to the larger quantifications and talk about human nature itself (which I really don’t like using such an expression). Lessons we may learn from the history of humanity.

I have just stated above the fact of the matter that we learn moral platitudes from previous experience. This should be an obvious truism. Now let me consider the media by which we learn moral platitudes.

We can learn of moral character, or a distinction between the right and the wrong through moral philosophy, which, I must say, is the worst way to learn about morality. Moral philosophy as a normative doctrine and the meta-ethical analysis of moral propositions, moral states, properties, dispositions or content can very much inform us, but as a practical matter; we invoke the distinction from Nussbaum of know-how and know-that. Moral philosophising pertains to the former species, wherby genuine moral knowledge and practical intuitions and insights about how to live our daily lives pertain to the know-that.

So, the following question we have is this; of what within the resource of ‘know-that’ platitudes do we come to know of moral things. A well documented case of this is literature.

We learn of the ills of racism in To Kill a Mockingbird; we learn of the horrors of man when they take their own control over each other in Lord of the Flies, we learn the evils and corruption of greed in Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith; and we learn the dangers of those irresistable wiles of feminine deception in Nabakov’s Lolita.

It is an interesting question in the philosophical literature as to whether the things that we learn of in art are aesthetically significant to our judgment of the work: we may also ask if knowledge about morality pertaining to a specific work is knowledge about the art of the work, whether it is propositionally similar to say, discussing the form of it. Is art morally indifferent; so that we can acceptably laugh when we watch the film American Psycho (which I certainly do!); or is art, like Adorno would have us believe, the vanguard of culture against the uneducated and brutish masses who are becoming corrupted by the inescapable force of the industrial capital consumerist society. I have sympathies with both views; but perhaps I shall consider those another time.

Evil and moral telos

Let us consider the moral telos as a notion that there is an order ultimately, to the actions moral of all people; that evil may perhaps one day be overcome, and that the evil we find in the world is acceptable and an important part of the furniture of our states of affairs (in virtue of this telos). Let me put it in another way; a moral telos is that sort of thing when people say these things happen for a reason. Which, I must say, I hate when people say because it is a question-begging statement to which they never answer.

We may think of moral evils as in some way a necessary part of our world. Durkheim thought this as a practical reality; we expect to analyse suicide statistics because we assume at ome point these phenomenon such as crime and suicide are inevitable. We maintain a police force, anti-terror divisions of government and prisons because we may assume as some constant that crime may take place; these are interesting sociological concerns, but for the purpose of this article, not our present worry.

The worry is more metaphysical; the idea of a moral telos seems complimentarily linked to God. Namely, that God is the author of the moral order, and, it is in relation to God that the ironing out of evil, or the presence of evil obtains. Theodicies give many different explanations for the presence of evil; we may say, for instance that it is because of the free will imbued within us.

This reminds me of the old wednesday masses we had; Father Thomas used to talk about the significance of God’s love; God loves us so much that he allows us to disobey him, Father Thomas told us that the importance of free will is that we are able to say ‘YES’ , as well as ‘NO’ [in the Barth sense viz Commentary on Paul's letters to the Romans].

The presence of evil is an effect of the magnificence of human freewill; perhaps magnificence is not a good word here, but to say that evil is a consequence of being autonomous agents. Be it logically possible for there to be a kingdom of ends whereby no evil is present because we are all good of character? Kant seems to think so; but I ask this; is the presence of evil necessary for the instruction of moral platitudes? I think not.
But then again, I think of the powerful humanity of certain important moral works; the beauty of art that is moral is that we can relate to it. If we lived in a world where no evil took place, but we were nonetheless moral beings capable of evil; how are we to learn? where is the carrot and stick?

The question I suppose I am putting foward is this; if we were to live in some possible world where all of us were perfect moral agents, we were mortal, and capable of evil; what would happen? what would be our motivational status for action? Perhaps I am assuming too much here tacitly about the nature of these perfect moral agents; but I ask this; is committing evil the best way to learn of not committing such evils?

I am finding it difficult to say no.

Michael (and Destre)

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Thine Brother: A thought on religiously motivated stigma

Posted by NoumenalRealm on April 6, 2008

I was just thinking about of this a little while ago; during my education at the Collegium, they taught us a little bit of the Gospels. Jesus character indeed, he defended, what father Thomas called “the shit of society.” people like lepers, prostitutes, the blind, the taxman and those of other cultural backgrounds.

Is it not quite interesting, challenging, even, to befriend those who are different to you.

There is no doubt that in our current society, there are those who we exclude; the disabled, the mentally ill, those of different ideological background, those who are otherwise our nation’s brothers, but seem to us our enemy; loved thine neighbour is platitude that which we can still learn upon.

I remember I once had an evangelical Christian friend, with himself Michael and I had the most interesting discussions. we shared a pessimism about politics, we shared a hope for improvinghumanity in the future, we also had a mutual interest in Foucault, perhaps some of our friends were quite staunch atheist would be quite surprised at us that I had a very good friend in an evangelical Christian.

My Christian friend, reminded me that it is very unchristian behaviour to not love an individual unconditionally in virtue of them being human beings; Kant spoke of the formula of humanity: treat all other agents as ends in themselves, never using them as a means to an end, I think this is the most important aspect of Kantian ethics, besides the moral psychology.

To love my neighbour is the most difficult, we had ancient prejudices, some of my old colleagues in the Collegium had some of the deepest prejudices, against Protestants for instance, and also those who deviate from the sexual moral code. I found it quite interesting meeting my evangelical friend, he emphasised the importance of Scripture, where my training under the Jesuits, emphasised the church fathers Augustine and Aquinas.

In a vault at is also often to forget where theology comes from, my contact with theology involved Kant, postmodernism, feminist theology, Marxism, existentialism, and the Frankfurt School. interesting as it is,I have a tendency to overplay historisities such as philosophy and psychoanalysis, I suppose, what I am trying to express is that the practice of these platitudes moral, particularly that of embracing those different to us is that which is practical deliberatory significant, and goes beyond the mere theorising of our armchairs.

Furthermore, I find it hard to consider Christianity as something which is predominantly exclusive. It has so far as it socially excludes those who they were trying to save, it would make no sense that those who claim the name of Jesus stigmatise those such as homosexuals, those you may benefit from stem cell research, although, who as a victim of abuse or some kind of social ill, find a little bit of doctrine difficult to follow.

Sinistre

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Protected: “To think freely”; on the significance of independent thought [Unfinished]

Posted by NoumenalRealm on April 5, 2008

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